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Part 24: Bush wheels and wheel discs
The odd name for this part makes more sense when one refers to the original MME description, "Bush for wheel". This was intended as a central hub, around which a wheel could be constructed with strips for spokes and/or a cardboard disc. The word "for" was dropped by 1904, and the part was known as a Bush Wheel from then on.
24 | Bush wheel, 8 holes | 1901 | - | 5 | 8 | 4 | N°0 | |
24a | Wheel disc, 8 holes | 1932 | - | n/a | n/a | 2 | N°3 | part 217a until 1945 |
24b | Bush wheel, 6 holes | 1954 | - | n/a | n/a | 2 | N°10 | |
24c | Wheel disc, 6 holes | 1954 | - | n/a | n/a | 2 | N°5 | |
518 | 1'' 6-hole bush wheel | 1962 | - | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
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The bush wheel (top left) was included in the very earliest MME outfits. In 1932, as part of the ill-fated budget X-series outfits, a small steel disc with eight holes (and one in the centre) was introduced. This part was transferred across to Meccano as part number 217a. Another part (219) was at that time named the wheel disc (later called the conical disc), but both of these were dropped and in 1945 the new part 24a Wheel Disc was introduced into outfits. This part was identical to the bush wheel, but without the boss, and is shown top-right in this photo.
In 1954, the 6-hole bush wheel and wheel disc was introduced. This allowed many more mechanisms to be built because of its 60° rotational symmetry, in particular it was useful for clocks and spur differentials. These parts are shown in the lower half of the photo.
Part number 518 is also a 6-hole bush wheel but only 1'' overall diameter, nickel plated, and thicker than the others. This part was introduced in the Electrikit and later in the equivalent 4EL outfit. It subsequently gained a new use as one of the parts of the three-part road wheel p/n 187c, supplied in the 1978/79 outfits 3, 4, 5, and 10. Thus it is also found in matt brass and iridescent finishes.
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Chronological variations
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Variations and oddities
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Dealer spare parts boxes
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These pictures show a range of parts (24, 24b, and 24c) in post-war yellow spare parts boxes. The boxes all contain product codes, dating them from at least 1954, but since the parts within are brass these labels remained unchanged right through the light red/green period, so they could easily be early 1960's parts.
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Individual part numbers
Part numbers for the parts on this page are as follows: Unique part numbersFor identification, each variation has been given a suffix to the main Meccano part number. These suffixes consist of a two-character code for the colour, and if there are many variations, a further number and sometimes letter code to identify each variation. See the bottom of the 'Parts' page for further details.
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Description | from | 24![]() | 24a![]() | 24b![]() | 24c![]() | 518![]() |
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Cast brass, four holes, feather key | 01 | .mm | ||||
Cast brass, 4 normal and 4 large holes, feather key | 04 | .mm1 | ||||
Cast brass, 4 normal and 4 large holes, tongue key | ?? | .mm1a | ||||
Bronzed steel two-part wheel, 4 holes | ?? | .mm4 | ||||
Machined brass, eight standard holes, tongue key | 11 | .mm2 | ||||
Disc 1/16'' thick, 1911 short boss, tongue key | 12 | .mm3 | ||||
Disc 1/16'' thick, patent short boss, tongue key | 12 | .mm3a | ||||
Disc 1/16'' thick, 1911 full boss, tongue key | 12 | .mm3b | ||||
Disc 1/16'' thick, 1911 boss, single-tapped | 12 | .br1 | ||||
Nickelled steel disc, 1911 boss, single-tapped | 15 | .ni | ||||
Nickelled thicker disc, patent boss | ?? | .ni1 | ||||
Brass thicker disc, patent boss | ?? | .br2a | ||||
Brass disc 1/16'' thick, patent boss | ?? | .br2 | ||||
Brass disc 1¼'' diameter, patent boss | ?? | .br3 | ||||
Steel disc, brass plated, recessed boss single tapped | ?? | .br3a | ||||
Brass disc, recessed boss single tapped | ?? | .br3b | ||||
Brass disc 18swg, 1 3/8'' dia, standard boss | 20s | .br4 | ||||
Brass disc 18swg, 1 3/8'' dia, boss double tapped | 27 | .br5 | ||||
Steel disc 21swg, unpainted (X-series part X475) | 32 | .st | ||||
Steel face enamelled blue | 34 | .nb | .nb | |||
Steel face enamelled red | 37 | .re | .re | |||
Steel face enamelled red, painted over Mazac bush | 40 | .re1 | ||||
Olive green, only two holes in face (Mech Army) | 39-41 | .ma | .ma | |||
Post-war brass face, standard boss double-tapped | 45 | .br | .br | .br | .br | |
Blackened steel face (Korean) | 51-52 | .bs | .bs | |||
Brass, 1 7/16'' diameter, edge not chamfered | 60s | .br6 | .br1 | .br1 | .br1 | |
Nickel-plated steel disc, not chamfered | 62 | .ni | .ni | .ni | ||
Zinc-plated steel disc, not chamfered | 68 | .zn | .zn | .zn | ||
Black fibre insulated face, Electrikit part | 62 | .xx | .xx | |||
Brown fibre insulated face, 4EL part | ?? | .xx1 | .xx1 | |||
Steel with matt brass finish | 71 | .mb | .mb | .mb | .mb | .mb |
Iridescent | 79 | .ir | .ir | .ir | .ir | .ir |
ALL | ALL | ALL | ALL | ALL |
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Further information
Total number of messages on this page: 24. This is page 1 of 4.
Brian Maunder (at 1:56pm, Wed 21st Aug, 24) |
Part 217a was not the same as part 24a, it was of smaller diameter. As far as I know part 217a was always red (the pre-war red). |
James (at 7:42am, Sun 14th Oct, 18) |
These are "old style"bush wheels David and appear to be fairly common. |
François LANECKI (at 3:17pm, Sat 3rd Dec, 16) |
I have 3 wheel discs 8 holes dark red diameter 1" and a quarter only, its appear also in French catalog 1951/52 as part number 217a. |
David Barrett (at 2:04am, Tue 24th Feb, 15) |
I have recently been buying lots of "Meccano" on E-bay in an attempt to build up my collection. Of course this is a risky enterprise as there is a lot of repro and 2nd string parts in the wild. |
Roger from Oxford (at 7:49pm, Mon 7th Jul, 14) |
I have 6 hole and 8 hole wheel discs from a 1950s set, diameter 1 and seven sixteenths inches; also bought separately RED 8 hole wheel discs stamped Meccano bought separately, which are only 1 and a QUARTER in diameter. I don’t think you mention the different diameters. Looking at a list of parts from the late 1930s, part 217a is shown as 1 and a quarter inches. The larger ones are called 1 and 3 eighths in 1950s manuals,whether 8 hole or 6 hole (and they are both the same diameter, definitely bigger than the red ones). I see some mention of this now in the "Individual part nos", but I don't think it has due prominence in your main account, because they seem quite different. |
Andrew (at 3:43pm, Thu 6th Jun, 13) |
Thank you Richard |
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